Do We Observe, or Create Our Reality? (Self-Brain Surgery Saturday)

Good morning my friend, I hope you're doing well. It's Dr. Lee Warren here with you and it is self brain surgery Saturday.

Today we're going to talk about quantum physics.

That sounds kind of nerdy. It is going to be nerdy, but I want to give you one little thought process.

As we get close to November, we are going to do what we did last November, new thing November.

We're going to talk about as we get towards the end of the year, we're going to take a

a hard look at the things that we've been doing, because remember one of our tenets of self-brain surgery,

is that the thing that you're doing, you're getting better at.

And so if there's some things that have been happening in your life that aren't good for you,

or that you're not satisfied with, or if you keep feeling like I need to make

this particular change and it's just not happening, then I'll just remind you of one of the truths,

that what got you here won't get you there if there is the new place that you want to be

that's different from where you've been, right?

What got you here won't get you there. So if you are frustrated with some aspect of your life,

and this could be, I want to get in better shape,

I want to stop drinking alcohol, I want to stop doing this, I want to start doing that,

I want to repair this relationship, I want to break through this wall in my marriage,

whatever it is, or if it's something because of a massive thing that's happened to you,

and you say, I'm really at a place where I'm recognizing that being stuck in this grief pattern

or being stuck with the trauma response that I have to what happened to me in the past isn't serving me well.

Okay, if you're tired of everything being so hard, you're tired of being so tired,

and you just say, God, I'm ready for a new thing in my life,

then we're gonna have to make some decisions, right?

So if it's a new thing November that's coming, I'm just gonna introduce the idea today,

then we're gonna have to recognize that there are some old things that we're gonna have to get rid of.

And not all of those old things are bad, okay? It's not bad to be mournful about the massive things

that you've been through. It's not bad to be a little out of shape

or a little bit stuck in some kind of issue.

Not necessarily sinful, but if you recognize, if it's time for your heart is saying,

hey, I've got to break through.

It's time for me to move. God is calling me.

It's time, my family needs me to step up. It's time for a new thing.

And if that's you, if you're feeling that call, the new thing November is going to be for you.

We're going to do that. We're going to apply neuroscience and faith in a way to help us break through

whatever it is that's been holding us back.

There's going to be several key scriptures and several ideas from science that are

going to work together to get that done for us. We're going to have some incredible guests coming up in November too.

And today we're going to talk about one idea from quantum physics that I think

will be helpful in this context of how do we.

Overcome the idea that our life can become about one particular thing So we talked a lot of my new book

Hope is the first dose About how grief can become an idol about how certain things in our lives can become bigger and more powerful than God

And I want to give you a concept from quantum physics that'll help you to understand that a little bit more clearly

And it's something to do about it. That's also from quantum physics. Okay, how we can hold two,

Realities in tension between each other and that's what we're going to talk about today on

So brain surgery Saturday in just a few minutes. I'm gonna tell you about yesterday

I want some cool things that happened yesterday and we're gonna do all that in about I don't know 20-25 minutes,

And then I hope you have a great Saturday. I hope you take a Sabbath get some rest this weekend,

Worship with your people tomorrow. I just hope it turns out to be a great weekend for you

But before we get into November I want to give you some context and some some precepts and some ideas and we're gonna start with quantum physics

And I'll tell you why in just a minute and before we do any of that. I have one question for you.

Hey, are you ready to change your life if the answer is yes, there's only one rule

You have to change your mind first and my friend,

There's a place for the neuroscience of how your mind works smashes together with faith and everything starts to make sense

Are you ready to change your life?

Well, this is the place self brain surgery school. I'm dr. Lee Warren and this is where we go deep into how we're wired,

Take control of our thinking and find real hope this is where we learn to become healthier feel better and be happier

This is where we leave the past behind and transform our minds. This is where we start today. Are you ready?

This is your podcast. This is your place. This is your time my friend. Let's get after it.

Music.

All right, you ready to get after it? Self-brain surgery Saturday.

Here we go. I want you to think just for a minute with me about quantum physics.

What in the world, Dr. Warren, are you always talking about quantum physics?

Well, let me tell you why. Years ago, we thought that science was neatly divided into all these different disciplines.

There's chemistry, there's physics for the real nerds, there's mathematics, there's biology.

Guess what we are learning?

As we go deeper and deeper into understanding anatomy, physiology, and biochemistry, guess

what we are learning? Everything collapses into physics.

It's fascinating. What I mean by that, the more we learn about how cells work, for example, the more we recognize

that cells are electrical organs, and the more we learn about the electricity and electromagnetism

of cells, we learn that they have an incredible ability to communicate with one another.

How do they do that? Through signals.

What are those signals made of? Electrical phenomena.

Those microtubules that we talked about a few weeks ago on Microtubule Monday, we did

a whole episode about the way that synapses happen in your brain, in your nervous system.

These little structures called microtubules, guess what? They turn out to be like little antennas that send signals back and forth to each other

through the physics of your brain.

They send chemical and electrical signals to each other and that's how they find each

other to make synapses.

So they're like little antennas in your brain.

And that all comes down to electrical engineering, which is based upon physics.

So everything in your body turns out really at the base of it to be physics.

And that shouldn't surprise us because right there in the first page of the Bible, God

says, what's one of the first things we hear?

Fiat Luce, let there be light, right?

God is a chemical engineer, he's a photosynthetic engineer, he's an electrical engineer, he's

a mechanical engineer, he's an interior designer, he's a great physician, he's a neurosurgeon,

he is whatever you are, he's the creator of that concept.

So God started the universe with physics.

So physics then really backs up to ultimately become the origin story of our universe, of

our brains, of everything.

And the evolutionary biologists and all those people got it wrong when they explain how,

one species might become another given enough time.

And you've learned all about in school how survival of the fittest and Darwin's theory

of evolution and all those things, and that's all fine and dandy, but let's say even if

you can develop a model that might explain how over thousands of years one species might

make subtle evolutionary changes based on advantages and survival and all of that to

turn into a different species.

But let me ask you a question. Does survival.

Explain a rival. Of course, it doesn't if you back far enough up in Astrophysics in quantum mechanics in biology if you back far enough up,

Ultimately the question becomes where did the starting materials come from?

Where did the beginning impetus the input of energy come from?

Where did all that come from it all at the beginning of it?

There has to have been something that set all that in motion that provided the materials and provided the,

the laws that govern the reactions, and ultimately there had to have been a physicist at the back of all that.

And I would submit to you that it wasn't Stephen Hawking. There was a great designer back there at the beginning that set all this in motion.

So let's just presuppose that, and if you're not a believer, it's okay.

I would encourage you to go read some of the modern work that's happening in string theory

and see if it doesn't say sort of that it's blowing up every other aspect of science and

all these assumptions that people made that eventually we would figure out how nothing

could create something, well guess what they're doing now?

They're starting to say, gosh this really does look designed.

We're going to have Michael Guillen on the show, PhD astrophysicist from Cornell, he's

also a Christian, who converted himself with science while he was training with Carl Sagan at Cornell.

And Michael's going to show us a lot about that, okay?

Now, that's an aside.

I want to talk about quantum physics just for this little idea.

Quantum physics is the study of the very small. What happens at the subatomic level inside your cells, inside your electrons, inside

your atoms.

We used to think it was just electrons, neutrons, and protons, that's what you were probably taught in school.

Now we know there's a whole host of subatomic particles, there's dozens of them that they've already identified.

Baryons, pentaquarks, mesons, axions, leptons, musons, neutrinos, bosons, all these little

particles that make up neutrons, electrons, and protons.

And I've always said that one of the reasons that science points me to faith instead of

away from faith is that when I look further and further into the nervous system, every

time we get a new technology that allows me to zoom farther up, I've got a better microscope,

I've got some kind of fluorescence, some sort of technology that allows me to look at some

phenomenon on a deeper level, guess what we find?

It's more complex than we thought. We think we're going to be able to break down and look inside a cell and say, oh, now I

to understand how that could have happened.

No, we actually when we look deeper we find more questions more Organization and more structure and more design and we say holy cow

This is way more complex than I thought it was. There's no way this happened by accident,

So same thing happened in physics and that they thought okay, we got it figured out. We understand how atoms work

There's there's protons electrons and neutrons. Well, guess what?

There's millions at least dozens of of particles beyond that that are smaller,

that provide the structural building blocks of electrons, protons, and neutrons.

Why am I telling you this on Cell Brain Surgery Saturday? Why do you care?

We'll get there in a second. Before we do that, I wanna tell you about yesterday.

I had unbelievable conversations yesterday with Tish Harrison Warren, who's one of my favorite writers.

We talked about lament, we talked about advent, we talked about what to do when life gets really hard.

That episode's gonna, I'm gonna hold it till just before the start of advent.

We're gonna have two episodes about Advent shortly together,

right before we get there on the calendar.

It's gonna be incredible. So we have that.

Had an incredible conversation with Greg Pruitt, who for years has been the president

of an organization called Pioneer Bible Translators. These people go out, they serve in the mission field,

they get to know a culture that doesn't have a written language.

They serve those people, work among them, build houses for them.

Our son Josh spent a year in Guinea, West Africa with Greg back in 2004.

Before I knew him, before I knew Josh, even in our blended family that would come to pass later,

Josh served a year after high school in Guinea, West Africa with Pioneer Bible Translators, with Greg Pruitt,

working side by side, building huts and providing medical care and teaching people hygiene

and first aid and all kinds of things, hunting for them.

And what they do is they learn a language and then they work to develop a written language for those people.

Then they teach them how to read and write, and then they translate the Bible into that language.

And so ultimately they're equipping people to have a written Bible in their own tongue.

Which is incredible, and this has happened now for hundreds of languages, and so Greg's on the show.

He's a recent book called Extraordinary Hearing, and it's about how to hear God, and we're going to have three episodes coming up about how to hear God.

One's going to be with Pete Greig, who wrote the other best book I've ever read about that topic.

And then we're going to have Greg, and we're going to do a kind of a twofer idea, or a threefer idea about how to hear God.

One from me and two interviews, Pete Greig and Greg Pruitt. We're going to bring those to you soon, too, as we get into New Thing November.

One of the things that needs to be new is a refined sense of how to hear what God wants

for you in your life. Okay? So we're going to do that.

Two great conversations. And then to top it off, had an hour-long live radio conversation with my friend Susie Larson

on her show, and I'll bring you that link once it's available.

We just had the best talk, and Susie's completely sold out on the idea of neuroscience, meeting

with faith, sharing that content with her radio audience around the world.

Just such an honor to be friends with her, to learn so much from her, and if you haven't

yet read Closer Than Your Next Breath, Susie Larson's new book, you've got to read it.

Okay, read it before you read Hope is the First Dose, or read it alongside Hope is the First Dose.

Just an incredible work of theology and scholarship and Christian living from our friend Susie,

and I can't recommend it highly enough.

And just had a wonderful conversation with her, so I'll give you the links when they're

So yesterday was just this great day and we just had all these great conversations

I spent the whole day thinking about you and I heard from tons of people yesterday. We got lots and lots of emails yesterday.

Some of them as usual Devastating and difficult and people are going through hard things. Okay, you know email from a guy who,

Got a phone call from his dad that his mother had committed suicide And Frank, we're praying for you, and I know that's a difficult thing, and you've been

going through this hard thing, this massive thing of losing your mom.

It's impossible, how can you move on, right? Another email from a gentleman who he and his wife

recently lost a daughter.

And he says, it just about killed me.

He says, my wife April and I lost our daughter in 2020. I was devastated, I asked God to just please take my life.

The pain was too much.

But then he worked a miracle in my life and now I wanna help other people

who are going through the worst pain of their lives.

He's reading Hope is the First Test. We're praying for you, Cody.

We've got these kinds of emails yesterday, these people who are going through massive things,

massive, unbearable things.

And friend, if that's you, if you've been going through something like that,

I wanna tell you a little story from quantum physics about a danger that you're in,

a real danger, and an opportunity, a possibility, okay?

And quantum physics describes how, If we're looking in the subatomic level,

if we're looking down small enough at how particles behave.

And why do we care about particles? Well, because they make up everything in the universe.

Okay, so all the things about you, this coffee cup I'm holding, made of particles.

My hand holding the coffee cup, made of particles. Those particles are interacting with one another

in a way that allows me to hold this cup and have a cup of coffee,

which I'm doing with you in real time.

So we care about particles because particles make everything else up, okay?

And here's what's interesting.

When you look at how particles behave, they don't behave in predictable ways.

There's all these experiments about light.

This, by the way, is the work that Einstein did when Einstein came up with general and

special relativity and all that work in the early 20th century that led to nuclear bombs

and microwave ovens and computers and microphones and all the things that we're using now,

handheld radios and all of that, really the underpinnings of it, is the math and science

behind quantum physics, or that explains the things that we can observe using quantum physics

about how the universe works.

All that stuff that you use every day in your life came from quantum physics, including

the cell phone that you're probably using to listen to this podcast.

So it is relevant to you, even if you don't care about science.

But here's something interesting.

When you try to observe, let's say light is the easiest one to understand.

If you design an experiment to look at how is light made up, what makes light, light?

Einstein and other scientists realized that light kind of behaves like a wave like like it sort of acts like a wave,

But other experiments seem to show that it kind of acted like a particle like so as light a discrete,

particle that that shoots out across space and acts like a particle like you could measure it and see where it is in time or

Is it like a wave like it like it like it behaves like like sound waves do is it a particle or a wave?

Well, it turns out it's almost an infinitely complex thing Because what they figured out is that if you design an experiment to prove whether light

is a wave or not, 100% of those experiments will in fact prove that light behaves like a wave.

If you look at light with the intention of proving that it behaves as a wave, it does.

But if you design an experiment to look at light as if it's a particle, to prove that

light is a particle, 100% of those experiments will in fact confirm that light is a particle.

And this is a conundrum, right? It doesn't make sense. How can light be a particle and a wave at the same time?

Well, they did these incredible experiments where they shot light at a slit,

Up against a wall and they found light does in fact behave at the very same time like a like it's a particle,

And like it's a wave they did this experiment with electrons and they found that an electron a particular electron that you shoot at a target

will, in fact, have properties that look like wave and properties that look like particle.

And then if you actually pay attention to what a particular electron does, it can be

in more than one place at one time.

How is that possible?

It's possible because of quantum physics. Quantum physics describes a world in which things don't behave like you're used to

them behaving in the big observable world.

Okay?

Why do you care about that? Let me tell you there's a there's a thing in quantum physics that they have discovered. That's called possibility waves,

okay, when you think about a,

Particular thing an electron a wave of light an event that may or may not happen when you think about it,

There are infinite possibilities of what can happen Okay.

The famous one is a guy named Schrodinger who described a box in which there's a cat in a vial of poison and until you open

the box, it's possible that the cat is dead because it drank the poison, or it's possible

that the cat is alive because it did not.

And until you open the box, both of those things are equally probable.

But once you open the box, you see there is either a live cat or a dead cat, and now the

probabilities have collapsed into one reality.

But in the quantum physics world, the act of observation is what makes the thing happen.

It's the observer that turns out to be influencing the event happening.

That doesn't seem to make sense because you would say, well, if a tree falls in the

forest it makes a sound whether or not somebody's there to hear it, right? That old conundrum?

But in the quantum world, phenomena and space and time are affected by the observer.

All possibilities exist in the quantum field, but it's the act of observation that collapses

them into probability.

There's a quote in this book, Genie and Your Genes, by Dawson Church from a quantum

physicist named Amit Goswami, and he says this, in the realm of possibility, the electron

is not separate from us, from consciousness, it is a possibility of consciousness itself,

a material possibility.

When consciousness collapses the possibility wave by choosing one of the electron's possible

facets, that facet becomes actuality.

So again, remember, if you design an experiment to look at light as if it's a particle, it

behaves like a particle.

If you look at light and design an experiment to prove that it's a wave, it does.

So it's affected by your observation.

The reality of how it's behaving is affected by your observation.

Now let's not get too deep into that because frankly I don't understand it well enough

to explain it to you. Here's where we're going to go with this.

When you've had a massive thing happen in your life, when you've been through something

really hard, guess what happens?

You begin to observe your life through the lens of that event.

And I'm going to bring this down to a fine point here, because I don't want to go too deep into it yet.

We're going to. Michael Guillen is going to help us get there.

But if you look at my life before this was happy, and now this has happened and I'm not happy anymore.

My life before I got that phone call about Mitch was happy and the future looked bright and all of that,

My son has been stabbed and I'm now a bereaved father and that's all I'm ever going to be and I'm unhappy and I'm sad

And my life is broken by this thing if that's how I observe my life.

I want you to remember one of the tenants of self-brain surgery we talked about What you're doing?

You're getting better at When you focus on and think about something you make synapses that define

How your brain is going to think about that thing in the chemical response the neurotransmitter response the hormonal response the cellular

response the cell the,

Genetic expression response and your whole life begins to be affected by the reality of the thought process that you have around that thing

You make synapses that further automate that so you don't have to think about it as hard to trigger that set of responses again the next

time and over time you create as

As one of our listeners, Dana, says, a superhighway, a rut in a trail that your wheel gets into

and you can't get out and you become an expert and an automator of the process of that thing being your reality.

And we talked in my book, My Hope is the First Dose book about Tina Tisdale, who her massive

thing was a pain syndrome that she had that she believed there was still a tumor in her

head even though there wasn't.

And that became reality for her to the point that she ultimately took her own life because

she couldn't accept the idea that she could have pain and not have brain tumor.

She thought if she had pain, there has to be a tumor. Nobody could show her or convince her that there wasn't a tumor and she couldn't live

with that. And she killed herself. Why?

Because that thing, that massive thing of the residual pain that she had became so big in her eyes.

It was bigger than God. It was bigger than any ability to heal or the rest of her life and her loving husband

and all the other things that she had going for her. If she had the pain syndrome, she couldn't have anything else and that became her reality.

And every other possibility of her life collapsed into the reality that she was defined by this

residual pain syndrome.

When you focus on a particular observation about your life, from the quantum world we've

learned that every other possibility collapses and the reality of the one thing that you've

observed becomes what's real.

And if you think your life is defined by this massive thing, friend, it will become defined,

by this massive thing.

Will every other possibility for your life will collapse into that one reality,

Now, let me give you some counterpoints to that,

God says This world is gonna be hard Jesus I'm looking at Jesus right now the Prince of Peace picture to my right on,

The wall and I'm looking right in his eyes and he says hey in this world you will have trouble,

John 16 33 and And the back half of that verse is but take heart. I have overcome the world, right?

So you're gonna have trouble but it's overcomable alright but if you observe the trouble part and,

You focus on the trouble part you will create synapses what you're doing you're getting better at it's becoming easier and easier and easier to fix your eyes on the trouble and,

Before long you can say my world is trouble Susie Larson and I yesterday talked about these kids that are wearing t-shirts

that label themselves and it says anxious, depressed, abandoned, rejected.

They're putting labels on their chest and they're wearing this identity that

something has happened in their life and that's how they're defined and I want

you just to pay attention now. People are always saying I'm ADHD, I'm obsessive

Compulsive, I'm OCD. I'm neuro atypical. I'm,

Divorced I'm cheated on I'm abandoned. I'm bereaved. I'm.

Addicted whatever it is think about that for a minute,

If you are accepting a label, whether someone else has given it to you, or whether an experience

or an event has given it to you, or whether you've just given it to yourself, an offhand

comment by your dad when you were eight put a label on you that says, dummy.

If you've accepted that, you're getting better at believing it and you are observing that reality.

And if you're not careful, your entire universe, all the other possibilities that you could

Become or embody in your life will collapse into that one reality.

Quantum physics shows us that if you observe something carefully enough every other possibility,

Collapses and the one reality becomes the reality,

We talked in my book about how a thing Can become the thing that you can see and this is the math and science behind it friend,

So here on self brain surgery Saturday, I want to give you a different idea

I want you to understand that your massive thing can be both a massive thing and a,

Thing in your life just like a light in fact turns out to be a particle and a wave.

That secret is to not just observe it as if you're looking for it to be a particle and,

Not just test it as if you're trying to prove that it's a wave,

but accept the fact that it's both. Jesus not only said that in this world you

will have trouble. He also said

Take heart, I've overcome the world. He didn't only say in John 10, 10,

that the thief comes to steal and kill and destroy because your life could collapse into that.

I've been stolen from, I've been killed, I've been destroyed, I've been cheated on,

I've been hurt, I've been cancered,

I've been bankrupted, I've been pandemiced, I've been fired, I've been abandoned,

I've been overlooked.

Your world could collapse and that could become the only reality that you can see.

But guess what, it's almost new thing November.

It's time, as Hebrews 12 says, cast off.

Cast off some of those things that have been hindering you. And if this idea that your world is defined

by something that's happened or some label that's been put on you,

then it's time to cast that off, okay?

It's time to cast it off, my friend.

That's Hebrews 12. Therefore, since we're surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses,

let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles

and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us. Okay, you get this?

Fix your eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of your faith.

And fixing your eyes on Jesus then is like understanding that light can be two things at once.

You can have this wounded Savior,

who's risen from the dead, but he still has his scars, and he's saying,

yeah, I've got some wounds, and my wounds actually turn out to be the way that you can really know who I am.

Or you can say, nope, I can't believe in a crucified Savior.

That's not a good story for me.

Life is too hard.

Even the good guy gets killed.

It's just too much. My life has been now defined by this massive thing.

If you fix your eyes on the wrong thing, friend, it will become the thing that you can see.

It will become the only reality that your universe can accept and you will become really really good at living around that story.

And protecting that story and letting yourself be identified by that story and building systems in your life,

Of having other people serve that story,

I see this all the time Sadly in my career But people with chronic pain whose entire family

socio-dynamic has become revolving around mom's pain and I see people like

carrying pillows for their wife to put their arm on just because their arm hurts

and they're just bowing down to mom's pain syndrome and I see people dad you

know has been through this thing and their whole life would go revolves around not setting dad off and not triggering dad. Dad's had a hard day at

work and let's don't get dad angry he's gonna be abusive he's gonna drink let's

let's don't set dad off I see that and it's sad I see it in parents with people

with kids with chronic illnesses, whose entire marriage and life is defined by this child

and their problem, which it has to be practically in some ways, right?

But my point is this.

If you can learn to look at Jesus and accept the fact that he has two observable realities,

he's crucified and he's living.

He's a man of many sorrows, but he's also growing in wisdom and favor and stature with

God and man at the same time.

He's sacrificed his living.

He's the lamb and he's the lion. If you can put yourself in that quantum reality frame where more than one thing can be true

at the same time, that's how you can stop getting really good at letting the massive

thing be the only reality that your life and your universe can be defined by.

Just a little self brain surgery, quantum physics operation for you today.

We do things called radio surgery where if you've got a particular type of brain tumor,

I can instead of doing open surgery on you, I can use quantum physics to shoot some radiation

beams and some gamma radiation particles into your head and treat that tumor without burning

up the rest of your brain.

That technology allows me to help you without having to hurt you as much with surgery.

And that came about because of quantum physics. Quantum physics can allow us to heat up our food, to make a cell phone call, to cure a

tumor, or to learn to embrace the fact that life can be really, really hard, but it's,

also really, really beautiful.

And it can help us change our minds, and it can help us change our lives.

And here on Self Brain Surgery Saturday, my friend, you can really become healthier and

feel better and be happier again.

It's almost a new thing November and a new thing November. We're gonna embrace Isaiah 43.

Or he says when you pass through the waters, I'll be with you when you pass through the rivers

They won't overwhelm you when you walk through the fire. You won't be burned the flame won't consume you

You can go through massive things my friend, but he says fear not I am with you,

I love you, and I'm with you and I won't stop.

Okay, Isaiah 43 16 says thus says the Lord who makes a way in the sea a path in the mighty waters

He has a plan for you,

And we're gonna focus on Isaiah 43 19 in November behold. I am doing a new thing now. It springs forth

Do you not perceive it?

I will make a way in the wilderness and rivers in the desert if it feels impossible for you to move past this massive thing

That's holding you back. It's just so important for you today for me to let you hear me say, friend.

It's not impossible. God is a God who does impossible things all the time.

And the one you can do today is take your eye off the massive thing and put it on him,

and say, if I learn to look at him, he's gonna teach me that two things can be true at the same time.

I can be a bereaved father and I will be. I'll be sad about losing Mitch for the rest of my life,

but at the same time, I can have a life that is abundant and even happy again because of hope.

Hope turns out to be the first dose that will allow you to embrace these ideas.

And if it's too complex and too hard for you to understand, just trust me, I'm gonna teach you whatever you are,

school teacher, plumber, bus driver, retired grandmother, paralytic,

I'm gonna teach you how quantum physics,

and neuroscience can smash into your faith and you can understand how this incredible engineer

and physicist who created you has a good plan for your life wherever it is.

And that plan doesn't usually involve removing your pain or healing your physical disease right now.

It doesn't always involve that.

It involves him entering into your story and saying, hey, I'm not gonna remove this pain right now.

I've got a long-term plan, a long arc that's gonna do that, and I'm gonna wipe those tears away.

But right now, I'm gonna come walk beside you, and I'm gonna carry that load for you.

And I'm gonna help you, because two things can be true at once.

We can be on a road that's marked with suffering, and we can still say, blessed be your name.

And the good news, my friend, is you can start today. One, two, three, four.

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