Hungry Hungry Hippocampus (Mind Change Monday)

Good morning, my friend. I hope you're doing well. Dr. Lee Warren here with.

You and it is Mind Change Monday.

We're going to get after changing our minds about something today and I'm going

to teach you about your hippocampus.

The hippocampus is a little part of your brain that has everything to do with learning,

emotional regulation and just about everything that's important in the connection

between your frontal lobe and your limbic system and we're going to learn what

that has to do with prayer and meditation and becoming healthier and feeling

better and being happier.

We're gonna do all that in the next 20 or 30 minutes. I'm gonna give you a song

from Tommy Walker to fix your eyes on, something good at the end.

And we are going to have a great mind change Monday.

But before we do any of that, I have one question for you.

Hey, are you ready to change your life? If the answer is yes, there's only one rule.

You have to change your mind first. And my friend, there's a place for the neuroscience

of how your mind works smashes together with faith and everything starts to

make sense. Are you ready to change your life?

Well, this is the place, Self Brain Surgery School.

I'm Dr. Lee Warren and this is where we go deep into how we're wired,

take control of our thinking and find real hope.

This is where we learn to become healthier, feel better and be happier.

This is where we leave the past behind and transform our minds.

This is where we start Today, are you ready? This is your podcast.

This is your place. This is your time, my friend. Let's get after it.

Music.

Alright, hey, it's mind to change Monday. This is the episode every week when

we think about one thing that we can change our mind about and,

That's gonna help us become healthier and feel better and be happier This is

important because you can't change your life until you change your mind and

say it all the time And we know now that that's not just some cliche self-help.

Thing But you actually when you change how you think you change how your brain

works You change the physical structure of your brain and thoughts become things

the things that you think about turn into different expressions of genes that

turn into different protein production that turned into epigenetic switches

and all kinds of things in your life that change how you live.

And so it's really critically important to get your thinking under control.

That's why the Bible tells us in 2nd Corinthians 10 to get every thought under

your control, to capture every thought, take captive every thought and bring it into submission.

That's why Romans 12 says don't be conformed to the way the world wants you

to think and be and live and feel and do all these things that the world wants,

but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

Tata and I have an incredible brand new Tuesdays with Tata episode for you tomorrow.

We're going to talk about something you need to change your mind about.

But Mondays we just drill into this idea and today I want to teach you about

a part of your brain called the hippocampus.

And hippocampus, not hippopotamus, not hungry, hungry hippos like that children's

game, but the hippocampus. It's a seahorse-shaped structure in the very middle

of your brain, in a part called the limbic system.

Now, when I was a resident in neurosurgery, I did a fellowship for a year in epilepsy surgery.

And one of the common places in the brain where seizures are triggered is in

the medial hippocampus, the little part on the inside tucked corner of your

temporal lobe where the amygdala and the hippocampus and all these limbic structures are stuck together.

And that part of the brain is commonly diseased and a disease called medial temporal sclerosis.

And people that have that tend to have seizure activity. And somebody discovered

a long time ago that you can remove part of the amygdala and hippocampus in

certain people, especially on the right side, and you can stop seizure activity sometimes.

So I learned how to do that. We spent a lot of time mapping out the brain,

doing something called a WADA test, which hardly anybody does anymore,

but the WADA test was designed to test whether a particular hippocampus on a

particular side in a particular patient,

if you removed it, if it would affect their memory or not.

And so we would do water tests and if somebody had a hippocampus that was not

affecting memory if we removed it, then the other side was more involved in

memory than this side, then that meant that we could remove it safely and perhaps

control their seizure activity.

So obviously the hippocampus is involved in memory, but it's so much more than that.

Dawson Church in his great book, Bliss Brain, talks about how the hippocampus,

he calls it the military historian.

The hippocampus has this job of comparing information that's coming in,

what was that sound, to memories of past threats.

So that sound sounded like a gunshot, so therefore there must be somebody shooting at me.

And if there's a match with the incoming information and the memory of past

event or past threat that the hippocampus can link up, then it shoots off a

signal to the amygdala, which This then switches on your fight-flight-freeze system.

So you go into panic, fear, run away, fight.

If your hippocampus and your amygdala are overly attuned to one another,

then that comparison of incoming information with the memory of past events

can easily trigger your fight-flight-freeze system.

That's what they call the short path to emotional response.

It's the hippocampus directly to amygdala, directly to fight-flight-freeze.

This is the problem, by the way, in post-traumatic stress disorder,

is people that have this short circuit between hippocampus and amygdala and

fight-flight-freeze and they constantly feel like they're under some kind of

threat all the time. Well, there's a better way.

So the hippocampus decides which signals to pass to the amygdala and which ones

to ignore and therefore the hippocampus is critically important in regulating your emotions.

This may be why some people with seizure disorders seem kind of emotionally stunted.

Because their hippocampus and amygdala don't work properly and the emotional

triggering kind of wears them out all the time And if you give drugs to calm

down that part, maybe you suppress some of their emotional Liability and they

can't express emotion quite as well.

Maybe that's why some people have a really active hippocampus that very effectively,

Regulates their emotions and some people don't and those people have hair triggers

They fire off emotional responses to any stimulus quickly.

They become easily angered, fearful, anxious, and just minor life stresses.

You know these people. They fly off the handle. It's because they short-circuit.

They have a short path between hippocampus, amygdala, and fight-flight fear.

Importantly though, as I said just a minute ago, the hippocampus is super important

in the formulation of new memories. memories.

New experiences produce growth of synapses in the hippocampus and when you learn

something new you get your hippocampus bigger.

That's why I told you recently they've studied in meditators,

they've studied in people who are learning new languages, and people who are

learning new skills that the hippocampus actually physically gets bigger within

30 days of you diligently trying to learn a new thing.

The hippocampus grows. This is another example of how thoughts become things, by the way.

Your thinking changes the anatomy of your brain and one of the places it does

that is in the hippocampus.

So you've got this little place in your brain that's involved in emotional regulation

and it's involved in memory and learning and the most important part of what

it does is this cataloging of bad,

threatful, harmful things in the past and comparing

them to incoming stimuli and deciding if what you feel is worthy of being afraid

of or being run away from or being ready to fight over that your hippocampus

is that place where it happens and it happens if you don't train it.

It happens in a way that's outside of your conscious thought and seemingly outside of your control.

And so today on Mind Change Monday, we want to learn how to control,

understand what our campus does and learn how to control it better.

Learn how to get it more under our control so we can have that new mind that we're looking for.

Dawson Church tells this great story and it resonated with me because my dad

had all these books of airplanes from World War II.

He would have these great books that showed all the schematics and photographs

and engineering details of all these different airplanes from World War II and I was fascinated.

I looked at those books a million times when I was a kid. All the American ones,

the Japanese ones, the Russian ones, the German ones, the Italian ones,

and you would learn that there was always a chart of what the silhouettes look like from the sky.

And you would have these friend or foe charts.

Dawson Church shows one in his book, Blissbrain, and the idea was that you should

be able to look up and see an airplane and immediately recognize if it was a bad guy or a good guy,

like do you need to run off to the bomb shelter because you're about to have

an air raid happen, or is it safe, right?

You can look up and see an airplane and you know immediately if it's friend or foe.

Well, that's what your hippocampus does. Is it friend or is it foe?

You can look up and say, oh, that's a B-17. That's one of ours.

That's a that's a B-2 Spirit Stealth Bomber.

That's one of ours. Or you look up, holy cow, that's a Chinese bomber.

I better go run to a bomb shelter somewhere, drop everything,

go run for safety. That's what your hippocampus does.

It looks at a trigger, a stimulus, a feeling, and it links it up with something

from the past that's either a threatful or not.

It's either dangerous or safe. It's either needing to fight,

fight or flee from it or be afraid of it or you need to just relax and it's gonna be okay.

That's what your hippocampus does. When you learn about threats as a child and

they're accompanied by strong emotions like fear, then they get embedded in

your hippocampus and you make neural circuits around them, you hardwire them.

That's what I'm always telling you about. You touch a hot stove when you're

a child, you don't have to think about it. When you're an adult,

you don't have to test it and say, I wonder if that's gonna hurt me this time.

You know it. You don't even have to think about it. You instinctively don't

touch red glowing things on the stove or curling irons because you know they're

going to hurt you. That's hippocampus, okay?

The problem is, like those old air raid posters, friend or foe,

we don't need them anymore.

You're not going to see a B-17 bomber flying around in the air that's going

to potentially bomb you or not bomb you. You're not going to because they don't exist anymore.

So the problem is, even though you don't need that information,

your hippocampus still stores it up and still

reacts to it as if it's a real threat now

what in the world do we do about that and before we get

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it so you look up in the sky you see the bomber and you immediately link it

up with some time in the past when you got bombed right in that then you you

trigger the fire the fight flight flee reflex that's helpful to you.

But what if your grandfather did something to you when you were nine and you

remember that and there was a song playing on the radio when he did that thing

and every time now you hear music that reminds you of that song you feel like you're in danger.

That's PTSD right? That's something that's happening in your hippocampus that's

no longer useful to because your grandfather is dead and gone and that song

can't be related to a current threat.

Not likely to be anyway, right?

You don't need that information anymore but you still have it because you made

synapses around the emotional trigger that the music tied to the memory of what he did to you.

That's conditioned behavior and it's really really hard

to change even when it's outlived its usefulness and

there was a time when you were a child maybe you heard that music

come on and you knew he was getting ready to do something and you

would go hide and hopefully maybe he would you know pass out

drunk or not find you or whatever and that thing wouldn't

happen that that was useful to have that fight

flight fear response around that music it's not

useful anymore because now every time the radio comes on you don't understand

why you're so irritable with your family right now when I see a helicopter I

immediately sometimes become aware that my stomach kind of hurts I'm kind of

anxious and I realize I'm thinking about things that happen in Iraq when I would see a helicopter.

I'm gonna see some guy with a lower leg sticking out of his chest or some baby

that's been firebombed when that helicopter lands and then I say wait a minute

I'm not in Iraq I'm in Nebraska and then yes that's a life flight but it's not

likely to be for me and it's certainly not gonna be from a bomb that blew somebody's leg off.

Like I don't have to feel that. I can train myself how not to feel that.

And here's the thing when the hippocampus isn't Sure.

Of what to make of a piece of information then the hippocampus refers to the prefrontal cortex.

So in a healthy state when your brain's working the way

it's supposed to and we talked about this on frontal lobe friday last week I

gave you back the first frontal lobe friday episode and we talked about how

the frontal cortex is the ceo but the ceo has to know the problem exists before

they can get involved and make an executive decision about it right so when

the hippocampus isn't sure what to make it.

Here's a sound but doesn't know if it's a threat. It sees a thing doesn't know if it's a threat.

It refers to the prefrontal cortex when you're in a healthy state and the frontal

cortex is all about discernment and discrimination and knowledge and executive

function and higher-level,

thinking and it'll say wait a minute that wasn't a gunshot that was a car backfiring

that was that was thunder it wasn't you know a tornado it was just wind it was

it was not a threat and then your hippocampus goes okay well I don't need to

tell the amygdala to fire off into that fight-flight-flee, you.

Know, alarm state. I can just relax. So when the hippocampus is working properly,

there's a long path before you get to fight-flight-fear, okay?

So there's a long path. And we talked earlier, there's a short path that goes

right from hippocampus to amygdala and straight down to panic and anxiety and

running away and fighting and being irritable and all that.

When the executive function gets involved it calms

the hippocampus down and says wait a minute You're thank

you for checking in but you don't need to be alarmed and you can learn that

this situation Isn't a threat and what happens then over time is when you train

your hippocampus to check in before it freaks out Then you can become more resilient

to stresses and potential irritants in your day They don't all have to be,

You don't have to make an operation out of everything every time somebody irritates

you. This is the path, my friend, to a happy life.

The long path to calm down that hungry, hungry hippo.

Your hippocampus is constantly scouring the environment for threats,

for things to remember, for tying this trigger to an emotional response from the past.

All about trying to keep you alive. It's a good thing. It's emotional self-regulation.

But in order to do it well, you need to get the executives involved.

You need to get the effective emotional self-regulation that only can happen

when you use the long path from hippocampus to prefrontal cortex,

back to hippocampus, and finally down to amygdala.

That's how you can become healthier and feel better and be happier.

We all know people, and I hope it's not you, but we all know people who are

poor at emotional self-regulation.

They're not good at it. These are people with PTSD. They've got a circuit that's

impaired between hippocampus and amygdala. They don't take the long path,

they take the short path.

They startle easily, they overreact,

little innocuous stimuli in the environment freak them out, right?

I see a helicopter sometimes, it happens to me even, unless I think about it,

unless I do a thought biopsy and get involved in it.

So I have to think about my thinking and over

time I'll train my hippocampus to make synapses more

strong and robust synapses with my frontal lobe and

reduce or weaken the power of the

short path okay now you still need it sometimes there are

times when you instantly need to jump into action

okay that's when the bear busts in your room and

when the intruder comes into your house you don't need your frontal lobe to

do that you need to run away when there's a real threat okay but you can train

your brain to not overreact to these innocuous stimuli that keep firing or these

things from the past that are no longer relevant and no longer helpful somebody.

You know maybe doesn't answer you when you first call on them in the office and it triggers this,

relationship you had in the past where nobody ever listens to me and nobody

ever pays attention to me and who who or who do they think they

are for not paying attention to me and the truth is they had

headphones in and they couldn't hear you but instead you

reacted you yelled at them you made a snide comment or you went and told 20

people that so and so was ignoring you when the truth wasn't even that you didn't

take a second to get your frontal lobes involved and look at the situation and

you harmed yourself by taking the short path to emotional response instead of rational.

Thinking in a healthier response. Does that make sense?

These people who have poor emotional self-regulation, their hippocampi cut out

the frontal cortex and go straight to the amygdala.

They don't use wise discrimination, but they use instant reaction.

Everything is a life-threatening disaster. everything is

a big fiasco everything is a trigger that short

path is a path to misery for you

my friend you have an improved reaction speed

but terrible accuracy and you're reacting

to things that you shouldn't be reacting to and you're making an operation out

of all kinds of things that are not helpful to you in your life now the hippocampus

is also super important in memory and learning and there's two different types

of memory that you need to know about declarative memories and spatial memories.

Declarative memories are what do you do with facts and events like memorizing things,

memorizing the lines in your play, or memorizing the five teams that are going

to the four teams that are going to make the college football playoff,

those kinds of declarative memories that are just facts and events.

Spatial memories are also more important really. They're about navigation.

It's just how you remember the drive to your office and over time you don't

have to think about it quite as often.

How you remember this the steps through your living room so you can do it even

in the dark when you can't see. That's spatial memory, okay?

Now, there's evidence that the hippocampus can do something that's kind of remarkable.

It can turn short-term memories into long-term memories.

When you take those first few Mandarin lessons, you're trying to learn how to speak Mandarin,

you have to really focus and you have to pay super close attention to the grammar

and every little aspect of learning that language and all the nuance is really hard to program.

You get to pay a lot of cognitive attention, but over time it becomes easier

and you can more effortlessly learn new words because you've learned the rules.

You can learn the grammar and the syntax and how to put sentences together in

ways that don't make your friends chuckle.

I remember we were in Italy and I called our friend Gabriella who translated

my book, I've seen the interview, into Italian and I called her brilliant and

she laughed and I said, Why are you laughing? And she said, well, brilliant.

If you translate brilliant into my language, it would mean that you are saying that I'm sparkly.

So, you know, I have a word that means you're really super smart.

And she hears it in a way that says that she's sparkling, which is kind of interesting

and sort of related to the idea of brilliance, right? Like a brilliant diamond would be sparkly.

But when you're learning a language, you have to pay attention to that,

to understand that nuance, and understand the difference between one word and another.

But what the hippocampus does over time is it makes that less of a burden.

It automates some of that stuff so you don't have to think about it.

It becomes more effortless, okay?

And this happens when you meditate, and when you pray, when you calm your mind,

and you talk to God, and you get God to get involved in your thinking,

you activate, and we know this from functional imaging study.

So here's where the science and the faith smash together. Okay,

there's a region in your hippocampus called the dentate gyrus And when you meditate

and pray that region comes online in a more powerful way It gets activated and

what the dentate gyrus does is it sort of syncs up?

Emotional regulation and all kinds of different areas of your brain gets everybody

firing on the same page It gets all the emotional areas of your brain under

control and you start thinking less about yourself and more sort of globally

about the whole situation and the other people involved and the other nuances of the situation.

And this is how you activate your long path. It's how you calm your crazy emotional

storm and you give your consciousness a break from the me show that we talked

about on Monday of last week when we talked about the default mode network.

Okay, the default mode network, your baseline is all about you.

What does this have to do with me? Why are they hurting me? Why aren't they

paying attention to me? Why are they talking about me? Why did he do that to me?

Why doesn't anything ever work out for me? Why don't I ever win anything?

And you calm that down and you get your hippocampus getting better at regulating

and connecting to other parts of your brain.

And without all that emotional overlay, when the hippocampus is focused on integrating

instead of emotionally reacting,

you get this calm emotional space and you begin to fire the circuits that the

metaphysicists called the bliss brain,

the part of your brain, the network of your brain that's involved in feeling

calm and feeling at peace and feeling like things are going to work out and

they're getting better.

That's what happens when you learn to meditate and pray and talk to your brain

and think about your thinking instead of letting your hippocampus lead you around

like you got a rope around your neck.

Imaging studies have shown that when you activate the hippocampus,

you improve memory, learning, emotional control, acquisition of new skills,

spatial navigation, directional sense, higher levels of serotonin,

and coordination of different brain regions.

And when you decrease hippocampus activity, you get depression,

hyperactivity, amnesia, and dementia.

Okay? So in other words, if you can get your hippocampus more active,

it's going to regulate better, It's going to talk to the frontal lobe better.

It's going to keep you on the long path to becoming healthier,

feeling better, and being happier and it's going to short circuit the short

path, which is all about emotional ability and just running away from everything

and fight, flight, flee.

I keep saying that I'm having trouble waking up.

Fight, flight, fear, okay? That triple F that you don't want,

you're going to run away from everything.

You're going to fight. You're going to be afraid. You're gonna fear you're gonna

you're gonna flee and you don't want that in your life.

You want to be engaged You want to be regulated? You want to be in control?

Well, you know what the brain says what the Bible says about your brain Go to

Philippians chapter 4 This is fascinating 2,000,

years ago before they had functional imaging before they had spec scanning and

functional MRI scanning Before they had any of that you had Paul in Philippians

4 6 through 8 saying this be anxious for nothing Don't worry about anything.

Instead, pray about everything.

Tell God what you need, and thank Him for all He has done.

Then, you will experience God's peace, which exceeds anything we can understand.

His peace will guard your heart and your mind as you live in Christ Jesus.

That's the New Living Translation. Listen to it in the New International Version.

Finally, brothers and sisters.

Sorry, Philippians 4, 6 through 8 in the NIV says this.

Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation by prayer and petition,

with thanksgiving, present your requests to God and the peace of God,

which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever's true, whatever's noble,

whatever's right, whatever's pure, whatever's lovely, whatever's admirable,

if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things.

Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me or seen in me,

put it into practice, and the God of peace will be with you.

Listen, friend, I'm gonna tell you something that's physically impossible for you to do.

If you get in your car, you cannot drive north and south on Interstate 80 at the same time.

You can't. You can only go one direction.

It's not possible for you to travel in two directions at the same time.

And by the same token, it is not possible for your brain to take the short path

from hippocampus to amygdala to fight, flight, fear, flee, all that stuff.

It's not possible for you to do that and take the long path to get the frontal

lobes involved, get emotional ability under control, integrate with the other

areas of your brain that are responsible for emotional well-being and resilience.

It is not possible for you to take the short path and the long path at the same time. Why?

Because gratitude and thanksgiving activate your hippocampus and help your brain calm down,

and anxiety and stress deactivate your hippocampus and allow your amygdala to

come online more powerfully and short circuit that path and take the short path

to being terrified all the time,

to being anxious all the time, to making an operation out of everything all the time.

So in other words, gratitude and anxiety cannot exist in your brain at the same

time because they involve switching the hippocampus on or off.

So you can't have both. So my question for you today on Mind Change Monday is

which one do you want to have?

Do you want a brain that is a hair trigger to emotional ability that fights

and flights and flees and fears all the time?

Or do you want a brain that calls the boss and says, hey, here's what I'm feeling.

I'm feeling this anxiety, I'm feeling this fear.

What do you think about it? And the frontal lobe says, you know what?

You're not actually in danger right now.

Hey, look, they have headphones on. They're not ignoring you.

Hey, look, maybe they're having a bad day.

Maybe you should just ask them if they're okay. Maybe their mom just died.

Maybe they're not actually ignoring you. Maybe they're having some rough time

that you can help them with.

The frontal lobe gets involved and says, hey, stop, relax. You're not actually in danger.

Let's get the other areas of our brain involved in emotional regulation in here

and let's get all these circuits firing on the same page and let's get that

network to help you become healthier and feel better and be happier.

Your friend you can't drive two directions at the same time.

You can't take the short path and the long path at the same time.

So my question for you today here on Mind Change Monday is which path do you want to take?

And the good news is you can train your brain to take the long path to calm

down that hungry hungry hippo and get that hippocampus working in the way that

it's designed to work and you can change your mind and you can change your life.

Even on Minds Change Monday.

Listen, I'm gonna tell you about a cool thing that happened yesterday.

I woke up and I had this verse of scripture in my head. It took me a little

bit to figure out where it was. It was Psalm 27.

All the days of my life, I wanna dwell upon your beauty. I wanna gaze upon your

beauty and seek you in your holy place.

That's the line. It turns out to be from Psalm 27.

Then I opened up my Bible and guess what? from the Bible reading for that day had Psalm 27 in it.

So I thought it when I woke up, I read it when I did my Bible study,

and then I turned on Spotify and turned on my Tommy Walker album,

Never Gonna Stop, and the song I Fixed My Eyes On You was playing.

And that song, he starts with, I fixed my eyes on you.

He quotes the scripture, all the days of my life, I wanna gaze upon your beauty

and seek you in your holy place.

So I got the same message three times yesterday morning, And I want to give it to you today.

You can fix your mind on something. You don't have to be a victim of whatever

pops into your head. You can learn how to think about your thinking.

You can tell your hippocampus who's boss and you can get it to do its job.

And you can do that by learning to meditate and pray and focus on things that are helpful.

That's called prehab and the treatment plan that I gave you in Hope is the First Dose.

And you can put a bunch of good stuff in your brain that will help you when

times are hard. So you won't fall so far when you get knocked off your feet,

because you will, when the massive thing happens, you'll get knocked off your

feet and you'll fall a bit.

But how far do you fall? How far you fall depends on how much you prepare, how good your prehab is.

And I'm telling you that learning to fix your eyes on something that is always

true, you'd rather be grateful than anxious.

You'd rather be prayerful than worried. You'd rather have a solid safety on

your gun than to have a hair trigger and be shooting off emotionally in 500

different directions every time life throws a little stress at you.

You would rather stop making an operation out of every little event that comes

along and stresses you in your life.

And the way to do that, my friend, is to get this hippocampus under your control.

And here on Mind Change Monday, I just have one little thing to tell you,

and it's really, really good news.

You can start today. I'm going to give you Tommy Walker's song.

I fix my eyes on you as we go out because I want you to have some good prehab

in your heart The next time that hair trigger starts to go off You can get the

frontal lobe involved and tell that hippocampus who's boss and you can start

today All the days of my life.

Music.

I wanna gaze upon your beauty,

And seek you in this home,

Could you sing that with me? All the days of my life, I want to gaze upon you.

Music.

I want to give you my heart and my soul.

Music.

I want to give you my heart and my soul, Lord, Seek You in this holy place,

All the days of my life

I want to gaze upon Your beauty And seek You in this holy place All the days

of my life All the days of my life,

I want to gaze upon your beauty,

and seek you in this holy place.

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